surly crosscheck “shimergo” conversion…
Regardless of what the cycling industry will have you believe, more isn’t always better. Modern 10 speed cassettes rely on thinner cogs that wear out faster & cost more than twice as much as their 8 speed counterparts.
And when it comes to shifters that are fully serviceable & rebuildable, Campagnolo takes the cake, unlike the STI shifters that Shimano manufactures. Shimano would rather have you just buy another set of their shifters instead of being able to replace a spring or something else that should be easy to extend the life of the component.
What’s the best of both worlds? Campagnolo 10 speed shifters used with Shimano-based 8 speed drivetrains. It just so happens that the cable pull for Capagnolo 10 speed is the same that Shimano uses for their 8 speed setup. With proper installation & adjustment, a “Shimergo” setup works flawlessly!
Here is a quick cost breakdown.
“Good” 8 speed cassette – $32 & “cheap” 8 speed chain – $10 = $42 total.
Vs.
“Cheap” 10 speed cassette – $70 & “cheap” 10 speed chain – $35 = $105 total.
So it costs about 250% more to replace the 10 speed drivetrain than it does the 8 speed drivetrain. To add insult to injury, the 10 speed drivetrain will have a shorter lifespan than the 8 speed, due to the chain & cassette cogs being thinner. So, not only does it cost more, but you’ll have to replace it more often!
Brilliant! Too bad I don’t ride bikes with gears much.
Jesse said this on April 30, 2008 at 12:57 pm |
EXACTLY THE SETUP IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR, GENIUS. I want a cross check but i dont want the drive train or shifters it comes with, you just made my day, and gave me a reason to spend some money, i am curious as to what components are on your bike
Max said this on July 18, 2008 at 8:08 pm |
can you letme know the set up you have? thanks
John said this on July 31, 2008 at 10:09 pm |
How does it work have ten “clicks” on the shifters and only eight gears in the back?
sam said this on August 27, 2008 at 12:15 pm |
sam…
there are only eight clicks when properly set up…
michael said this on August 27, 2008 at 6:26 pm |
Michael,
This build looks just about right for my needs. I’ve got a couple great local bike shops here in Denver, but not sure if they’ll know the “Shimergo” setup. Can you give me a ballpark idea of the price range for this build, as shown minus computer and light?
Michael said this on September 8, 2008 at 11:01 am |
This bike ended up being right around $1400 total. Surly has increased their price for the complete Cross Check by $100 now, though.
michael said this on September 8, 2008 at 12:01 pm |
The Shimano rear derailleur.. Is it a new 10 speed model, or does it have to be an older 8 speed type? Thanks!
Jos said this on September 12, 2008 at 7:58 am |
Hi Michael,
Thats exactly the build up i’am Riding back here in Germany.
Except I Don’t use the Veloce Shifters but the cheaper Mirage ones in combination with a 8 speed Shimano rear Derailleur.
But I do have a Problem with the front derailleur. I built in a 3 Speed Shimano Nexus but with the Campa Shifter I’am only able to use 2 gains.
Do you have a better Solution???????
Would be nice hearing from you
Beni
Beni Melzer said this on October 25, 2008 at 10:50 am |
7 clicks for 8 gears !!! etc.
patrick said this on November 10, 2008 at 1:59 pm |
Quite right, Patrick. Quite right!
michael said this on November 10, 2008 at 2:02 pm |
[…] To find out more about “Shimergo,” see my previous post, here. […]
(another)surly crosscheck shimergo conversion… « The Broken Spoke said this on November 13, 2008 at 12:01 pm |
Are you running a double crank or triple? Would this set up work with either type crank?
Matthew Edwards said this on November 19, 2008 at 11:21 am |
A double, but it would work just fine with a triple, as well.
michael said this on November 26, 2008 at 10:20 am |
Does it matter what kind of rear derailleur you are using? I.e, can I keep my campy derailleur? or do I need to switch to a shimano derailleur to make this setup work?
Dustin said this on January 5, 2009 at 4:00 pm |
Interesting stuff. I’ve not been impressed with Shimano’s low end STI shifters due to the stupid placing of the thumb changer which you can’t reach whilst in the drops. I planning to get a new bike soon so I may opt for a cheaper 8 speed like the Ridgeback Voyage and “upgrade” the shimano shifters.
The Jolly Blogger said this on July 28, 2010 at 4:35 am |
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